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we do this to egypt. and i'm sure what shibley was talking about before, this is ridiculous. there were millions of people in the streets at the end of january of 2011. every police station in alexandria had been burned down. tahrir square was occupied. we didn't make it happen. we couldn't have stopped it if we wanted to, and the recognition of that fact, i think, is really important. number one is that old idea that we can go back to simply working with friendly dictators, i think that's just gone. second, i think, which is really important is the idea that we can control the region, that in a sense the region is crying out for our leadership and that every problem in the region has to be solved by us. and i think we -- there's a healthy recognition now beat into us by the war on terror, by iraq and now by the arab uprisings that the ability of the united states to manage and control what happens in the region is quite limited. and so the combination of those two things, i think, then helps to explain a
we do this to egypt. and i'm sure what shibley was talking about before, this is ridiculous. there were millions of people in the streets at the end of january of 2011. every police station in alexandria had been burned down. tahrir square was occupied. we didn't make it happen. we couldn't have stopped it if we wanted to, and the recognition of that fact, i think, is really important. number one is that old idea that we can go back to simply working with friendly dictators, i think that's just...
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what i'm talking about is bigger than egypt or anyplace else. it is a massive shift. it is one of those moments in 100 years the real historians like those at georgetown will write about this phenomenon. the base of the pyramid is taking more control. institutions that have always governed our lives, and music, are being bypassed answers the tested. people are holding them to account, demanding that they be more open, more responsive, more effective, or else. here in the u.s. to have the tea party hammering big governments. you had occupied due to the jolly bankers of wall street. social movements are competing. we have to help the more of my mental and the day. we are 3.2 million people at last count. we are asking the world to pay attention to the least among us. there are many things we can do to help them. we will see things are happening in the developing world. think about this particular moment. not just facebook in the heat of the square but the peaceful march across the world mobile phone. across the parched land of the dense rain forests of the congo. techno
what i'm talking about is bigger than egypt or anyplace else. it is a massive shift. it is one of those moments in 100 years the real historians like those at georgetown will write about this phenomenon. the base of the pyramid is taking more control. institutions that have always governed our lives, and music, are being bypassed answers the tested. people are holding them to account, demanding that they be more open, more responsive, more effective, or else. here in the u.s. to have the tea...
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not just syria, lebanon but egypt and possibly beyond. jenna: let's focus on syria. this conflict has been going on for 19 months. woe just heard news that the opposition group there elected a leader, a christian, the second-in-command being a member of the muslim brotherhood. we keep hearing that the opposition forces are very amorphous, we can't side with them because they don't know who they are. how do we interrupt the forces if they are keith a network and are at work in this region? >> jenna, very interesting we moved from we don't know who they are to we very well know who they are at this time. the central force and opposition is the muslim brotherhood. there is consensus among the region and observe. >> the number two of the new group, is a number two of the muslim brotherhood in syria. the chief, the new president of the council is indeed a christian. he is secular. he has been very liberal. he will oppose the muslim brotherhood. the problem, jenna, he doesn't have influence. those who control the ground are islamist militias. those who control most of the
not just syria, lebanon but egypt and possibly beyond. jenna: let's focus on syria. this conflict has been going on for 19 months. woe just heard news that the opposition group there elected a leader, a christian, the second-in-command being a member of the muslim brotherhood. we keep hearing that the opposition forces are very amorphous, we can't side with them because they don't know who they are. how do we interrupt the forces if they are keith a network and are at work in this region?...
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government we want in these foreign countries instead of letting the democracy happen what happened in egypt, libya, democratic elections. they're going to have to deal with their own almost civil war like we had to make sure that they get the government they want and not necessarily our outcome can't just be we can establish a government that's friendly to us. it has to be the people and sometimes it takes generations for these governments to really take hold and be by the people. host: thanks for the call. guest: that's a fair point. i wouldn't say that the problem in afghanistan is the united states is opposed to democracy per say. what i would say is that the united states and the rest of the international community and afgans themselves have a long way to go before they have something that looks like a credible and effective democracy takes root. and before we get there, there is the prospect that the country could revert back to if not civil war but extensive conflict throughout the country, extreme violence and that is of concern to the united states. and the reason it's of concern is
government we want in these foreign countries instead of letting the democracy happen what happened in egypt, libya, democratic elections. they're going to have to deal with their own almost civil war like we had to make sure that they get the government they want and not necessarily our outcome can't just be we can establish a government that's friendly to us. it has to be the people and sometimes it takes generations for these governments to really take hold and be by the people. host: thanks...
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issue came to a head, it was known that general petraeus was traveling ing ing ing abroad, he was in egypt. the trip report, i don't know what sort of paperwork they filed. the only thing that surprises me in senator feinstein's tone is, our cia directors don't work for congress. they work for the president. and if there was anybody who should be receiving information about the travels of the cia director, it's the president and the national security counsel. congress has an oversight role, which is important. and that oversight -- >> but the context was the benghazi investigation that they are holding the hearings on. >> i understand that. it's just that there was a sort of -- i understand that, and given all the questions about benghazi, i'm glad that congress is looking at it. i'm just saying that over the last, you know, years, sometimes in statements by senior members of the intelligence committees, you get the feeling almost that they think the cia director and the intelligence community work for them, and they don't. >> well, they have oversight. and i think -- >> they have oversigh
issue came to a head, it was known that general petraeus was traveling ing ing ing abroad, he was in egypt. the trip report, i don't know what sort of paperwork they filed. the only thing that surprises me in senator feinstein's tone is, our cia directors don't work for congress. they work for the president. and if there was anybody who should be receiving information about the travels of the cia director, it's the president and the national security counsel. congress has an oversight role,...